{"id":2569,"date":"2008-06-18T15:00:40","date_gmt":"2008-06-18T22:00:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.web-strategist.com\/blog\/2008\/06\/18\/liveblog-whats-wrong-with-the-white-label-social-networking-industry\/"},"modified":"2008-06-20T07:07:38","modified_gmt":"2008-06-20T14:07:38","slug":"liveblog-whats-wrong-with-the-white-label-social-networking-industry","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/web-strategist.com\/blog\/2008\/06\/18\/liveblog-whats-wrong-with-the-white-label-social-networking-industry\/","title":{"rendered":"LiveBlog: What&#8217;s Wrong with the White Label Social Networking Industry?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/jeremiah_owyang\/2590453053\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" style=\"margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer\" src=\"http:\/\/farm4.static.flickr.com\/3003\/2590453053_ba31f1267b_m.jpg\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This is really heaven for me, many of the vendors I cover such as SmallWorld labs, Jive, Telligent, Hivelive, Lithium, Webcrossing, Google all at the same table. <\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m here here at the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.forumone.com\/content\/calendar\/detail\/2481\">Online Community Unconference<\/a> at a session where we&#8217;re probing the problems with the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.web-strategist.com\/blog\/2007\/02\/12\/list-of-white-label-social-networking-platforms\/\">White Label Social networking space<\/a>.  The question?  Are social platforms shit? (I didn&#8217;t come up with, I&#8217;m just taking notes)<\/p>\n<p><center><\/p>\n<h2>[The question posed to this roundtable of vendors, clients and analyst: &#8220;Are social platforms shit?&#8221;]<\/center><\/h2>\n<p>If you don&#8217;t know the value of white label social networking vendors are, many large brands and organizations are hiring them to build online communities for their customers and prospects. I get a few calls every week from clients to discuss this growing need.<\/p>\n<p>What&#8217;s interesting is that all the folks at the table are collaborating (as one would expect from the community industry) to discuss pan-industry problems from clients, features, etc.<\/p>\n<p>Who was here?  A dozen folks, a majority are vendors, and a few community managers and strategists from brands and companies.  Leading this session is Greg Biggers. <\/p>\n<p><strong>Challenges expressed by the table: <\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n<strong>Lack of Interoperability within this fledging industry<\/strong><br \/>\nPlatforms don&#8217;t have interoperability, due to lack of standards. For example brands create a community for customers, while marketers launch a facebook campaign.  Differences include objects, protocols, data types, login, profiles, news page data.<\/p>\n<p>Community Managers don&#8217;t know what they want, so who should educate them.<\/p>\n<p>Owners want to move data from one vendor to another.  Some say that the database schema is very similar from some vendors, it wouldn&#8217;t be hard to develop a migrator.<\/p>\n<p>One community manager from a large tech brand (she asked me not to blog her company) wants to expose and share CRM data.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Lack of Flexibility<\/strong><br \/>\nNot having a standard supply of community feature &#8216;recipes&#8217; are difficult, no cookie cutter approach.  <\/p>\n<p>Content and navigation is sometimes not organized in a way of the communities&#8217; need.<\/p>\n<p>Communities software need to be flexible to adapt to the communities needs. For example, if a &#8216;food&#8217; community shifts their focus from recipes to menus or then to ingredients, the software needs to be able to adapt and change.<\/p>\n<p>How can a platform adapt to emerging technologies, such as twitter.<\/p>\n<p>Who is responsible for understanding the domain of the community.<\/p>\n<p>Lack of User Experience too many community projects<\/p>\n<p><strong>Confusion around Measurement<\/strong><br \/>\nWould like to have user behavior analytics, current metrics are not easy to use.  Telligent showed off their product, right time at the right place.<\/p>\n<p>Difficult to get customer data behavior.<\/p>\n<p>Lack of standardization of community behavior, such as a standard support metric, standard growth metric, etc.<\/p>\n<p>Behavorial metrics are easier to gather but tying back to ROI will be difficult.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Large communities cannot self-manage<\/strong><br \/>\nTools need to allow the community to manage it self, with the right features to remove, alert, reduce bad behavior.<\/p>\n<p><strong>High Performance issues rising<\/strong><br \/>\nHaving hosting services in multiple locations is a challenge for communities that need to scale for large enterprises that need high-availability. (Webcrossing and solutionset).   Expect this to continue to be an issue as communities become a node in the enterprise software system.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/jeremiah_owyang\/2591350388\/\" title=\"06182008401 by jeremiah_owyang, on Flickr\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/farm4.static.flickr.com\/3279\/2591350388_60d9bd48d3_t.jpg\" width=\"100\" height=\"75\" alt=\"06182008401\" \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/jeremiah_owyang\/2591293402\/\" title=\"06182008395 by jeremiah_owyang, on Flickr\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/farm4.static.flickr.com\/3179\/2591293402_486ebb441e_t.jpg\" width=\"100\" height=\"75\" alt=\"06182008395\" \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/jeremiah_owyang\/2591292256\/\" title=\"06182008396 by jeremiah_owyang, on Flickr\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/farm4.static.flickr.com\/3032\/2591292256_5182553023_t.jpg\" width=\"100\" height=\"75\" alt=\"06182008396\" \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/jeremiah_owyang\/2590455603\/\" title=\"06182008397 by jeremiah_owyang, on Flickr\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/farm4.static.flickr.com\/3182\/2590455603_006bbf130d_t.jpg\" width=\"100\" height=\"75\" alt=\"06182008397\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.technorati.com\/search\/%23ocu2008?authority=a4&#038;language=en\">Tagged #ocu2008<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Update: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ddmcd.com\/managing-technology\/theres-nothing-wrong-with-the-social-networking-industry-tha.html\">Dennis McDonald suggests the solution could be process, not more technology<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is really heaven for me, many of the vendors I cover such as SmallWorld labs, Jive, Telligent, Hivelive, Lithium, Webcrossing, Google all at the same table. I&rsquo;m here here at the Online Community Unconference at a session where we&rsquo;re probing the problems with the &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/web-strategist.com\/blog\/2008\/06\/18\/liveblog-whats-wrong-with-the-white-label-social-networking-industry\/\" class=\"more-link\"><span>Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\">LiveBlog: What&#8217;s Wrong with the White Label Social Networking Industry?<\/span><\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[50,106],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2569","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-social-networking","category-white-label-social-network"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/web-strategist.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2569","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/web-strategist.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/web-strategist.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/web-strategist.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/web-strategist.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2569"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/web-strategist.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2569\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/web-strategist.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2569"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/web-strategist.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2569"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/web-strategist.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2569"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}